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07-22-2010, 09:24 PM
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Lighting Question
Not having recieved an owners manual for our 1982 400i, I have a question regarding the running lights.
Is there a way to turn just the running lights on without elevating the headlight doors? At dusk I prefer to use the running lights but having the headlight doors up sorta spoils the look of the car. Regards, Howard Musolf 1981 308gtsi 1982 400i Cabriolet Maserati Spider 2 many brass era cars 
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07-23-2010, 02:29 AM
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Dear Howard,
If you look a few threads back (headlamps, RPM setting) I asked exactly the same question. With my car initially I could use the running lights without headlamps popping up. But then we found out that wiring was not original. So we refitted everything as originally described on diagram and situation is as follows (with my car): 1) Turning the lever: Parking lights (running lights) are functioning and lamps pop up without being lid. 2) Pull lever one position down: Headlamps function. 3) Pulling the lever towards driver: High beams 4) Then there is still one possibility to pull lever further down. I think in this position the high beam should be on constantly. (But that function is not working with me, we still have to check that). My problem is that when I put the lights out the units start living their own life and are popping up and down all the time. Looks very stupid when you are driving and headlamps are saying hello to everybody you pass :-). We think it must be in the motors of the headlamps ? These dusk till dawn rides are the nicest ones ...
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07-23-2010, 09:38 AM
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Howard
I use my driving/fog lamps in the front grille during the day. As far as I know, you can't have the running lights on without the pop-up lights being popped up. It is pretty daft! Aidan PS You can get the Series I owners' manual here: http://www.400register.com/manuals/a...-owners-79.pdf Last edited by aidanparte; 07-23-2010 at 09:41 AM.
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07-23-2010, 10:02 AM
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Aidan,
Just out of curiosity. The fog lamps in the grille you refer to. Was this standard or did you change that. On my car (400 A, '79) these lamps are used as high beam / flash light during the day when the headlight doors are not up. As per my understanding this is the standard fit (in Europe?). I cannot use them as foglights.
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07-23-2010, 10:13 AM
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07-23-2010, 10:17 AM
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07-23-2010, 03:50 PM
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One for David
David
If your lights pop up and down on their own, the problem is likely the stalk switch. The remedy is fairly easy. Pull the end cap off the stalk. Have a second pair of hands to catch the ball and spring that are inside. You will likely find a cracked solder joint inside there. Let me know what you find. Ken
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07-26-2010, 11:27 PM
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Headlamps pop or no pop
Interesting thread. As noted in previous postings a variety of switch/result combo's seem possible. On my 412 the running lights illuminate with the switch stalk rotated clockwise and in the uppermost (of three) settings. Again on this 412 front grille lights are listed as 'flashing' lights for passing which assumes the driver ahead notices your perturbed swerving and frequent flashing. Not an entirely productive endeavor in my experience. I had also thought of modifying circuit to switch on grille flasher lights to function in unison with rear below bumper red fog lights.
I have observed that the light stalks in our beloved Ferrari's continue to be a weak spot even 20+ years after my '66 was built. My 412 headlamp stalk required disassembly and soldering after a few weeks of driving. Turned out the soldered wire had simply lifted off the brass contact. Thank God the engines seem to be built with a little more care.... I don't know what other models in the 400 family might be like but I suspect the headlamps ought not to pop up or deploy when the running lights are selected. Why pop 'em up if not to illuminate? Life just gets beter and better.....doesn't it? 330Guy
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#10
07-27-2010, 06:46 AM
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This you would not never have with a volkswagen ... :-) What happens with your 412 when you put the lever in its lowest position. Are the high beams then constantly on as I described in one my former post ?
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#11
07-27-2010, 10:13 AM
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The attached link will give you all the info. you'll need until you acquire the 'real' thing. Print it off if you'd like. http://www.400register.com/manuals/400i-manuals.asp The attached pic is what's in the OM, any operation contrary to this spells 'something's up'. So just to be clear, w/the headlight stalk in the upper-most position & the knob rotated topsides towards the dash, only the running lights and tag lights come on. It isn't till you throw the switch down one position when the headlamps lift. I sometimes accidentally hit the headlamp stalk switch on left hand turns instead of the turn signal. This alone will lift the headlamps, but if you haven't turned the knob on, the bulbs won't burn. Also on pg. 94 of the OM states that cars exported to Germany, France, & Switz. have daytime flashing lights. Remember the chase scenes of old european & James Bond movies w/flashing headlights used before passing. People here in the states don't get it. Once those doors are shut, they're in their own little world. And w/phones & texting in the mix, actions (or in-actions/daydreaming/minds on other things other than what's at hand) can be deadly. Word from the wise...if you don't have or read your cars manual, 'do it' before your next drive. Bruce
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07-27-2010, 05:09 PM
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So then it is clear that they adapted the system in the later models. In my manual (400A) it says literally: (I tried to make an attachment of a scan but apparently my PDF file is to heavy (488 KB), it does not work, probably I am overlooking something)
Under section: Retractable headlights and High/low beam control knob: When turning the knob A the headlights pop up and the outer lights are switched on. I - Parking lights and number plate lamps II - Headlamp low beam III - Headlamp high beam
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07-29-2010, 09:12 AM
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"Oh Aidan, you out there?"
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07-29-2010, 11:49 AM
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http://www.400register.com/manuals/a...-owners-79.pdf to check the OM for the '79-'82 series 1 cars, so series 1's do pop up w/o burning the low beams when just turning the knob... kinda like a Fiat. I'm glad the factory corrected that for the series 2's & up.
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07-29-2010, 01:34 PM
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07-29-2010, 04:01 PM
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I am, but the car is Connecticut, so I can't check it right now. You are still losing it, though. Aidan
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07-29-2010, 04:25 PM
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07-29-2010, 09:56 PM
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Headlights?????
So according to the experts, my headlights should pop up when the 1st click of the headlight switch, but the headlamps do not illuminate. That is what they do. I still think it looks odd.
New question, how much trouble would it be to update to the 412 program? Any thoughts? Howard Musolf 1981 308gtsi 1982 400i Cabriolet Maserati Spider 2 many brass era cars.
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07-30-2010, 03:56 PM
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Column lighting lever spring and ball AWOL
When I pulled the end knob off the lever to check the soldering points..I find that the spring and ball bearing are just not in there.. Hello..Could any one of you out there possibly tell me of the proper size of each part? Thank all of you so much in advance...Jacques.
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