California vs 458

[rainforest]

Maybe Neil has a point. I have a friend who has a Lambo Murcielago, and after owning it for 4 years, he only put 4000km on it. As well, you can see that most previous F car drivers put very few miles on their cars. With the California, hopefully owners will be able to use their cars more.

[sg69]

Originally Posted by DM18

I did laps of Fiorano with Dario in a Cali and a Scud. Cali is no slouch. Absolute performance is not the issue. It is the way that the Cali delivers it. Ferrari in most people's thinking represents an edgy car that gives sensory overload. Cali in this respect is lame and why I did not buy one. I would not pay Cali price for a DD folding hard top car

Yes but What kind of sensory overload are you looking for while going to the office, running around town, or even on a road trip? On the track, I would agree with you, But most won't have the chance to track their cars and doing the daily grind in a scud or more extreme car without the room to be able to function doesn't make sense. I don't want to not drive my ferrari because I might have to pick up my kids in the afternoon and only have a 2 seater. I think getting 80% of the "extreme" experience and being able to use it all the time wins because most of us will not be able to use the extra 20% we're missing 95% of the time anyway.

[MalibuGuy]

Originally Posted by DM18

I did laps of Fiorano with Dario in a Cali and a Scud. Cali is no slouch. Absolute performance is not the issue. It is the way that the Cali delivers it. Ferrari in most people's thinking represents an edgy car that gives sensory overload. Cali in this respect is lame and why I did not buy one. I would not pay Cali price for a DD folding hard top car

Wow riding with Dario, "The Ultimate Ferrari Test Driver", must have been an experience!

Did you ask him how the Cali fared at Fiorano? Ferrari has not published a Fiorano lap time for the California. I know the Cali is a GT cruiser but would still like to see how she runs at the home track.

[jenniferq]

Originally Posted by PA Wolfpacker

I purchased the Cali not for the rear seats but for the ability to store my golf clubs and other larger items in the trunk.

All in all, Ferrari made a wise decision to manufacture both cars.

We did the same. It's the reason he's never gotten a Porsche - the golf club issue...

[DM18]

Originally Posted by jenniferq

We did the same. It's the reason he's never gotten a Porsche - the golf club issue...

LOL. Everytime I load my golf clubs into the passenger seat of my 993RS because I like the road to the golf club, I think how stupid this is!!!

[DM18]

Originally Posted by MalibuGuy

Wow riding with Dario, "The Ultimate Ferrari Test Driver", must have been an experience!

Did you ask him how the Cali fared at Fiorano? Ferrari has not published a Fiorano lap time for the California. I know the Cali is a GT cruiser but would still like to see how she runs at the home track.

Do not know the time but the Cali is bloody impressive on the track. Dario thinks it is a fantastic car. I rode in the car just before it was unveiled and the talk at the time was that the Cali was lacking Ferrari DNA - absolutely wrong!!!

[DM18]

Originally Posted by sg69

Yes but What kind of sensory overload are you looking for while going to the office, running around town, or even on a road trip? On the track, I would agree with you, But most won't have the chance to track their cars and doing the daily grind in a scud or more extreme car without the room to be able to function doesn't make sense. I don't want to not drive my ferrari because I might have to pick up my kids in the afternoon and only have a 2 seater. I think getting 80% of the "extreme" experience and being able to use it all the time wins because most of us will not be able to use the extra 20% we're missing 95% of the time anyway.

I don't use road cars on the track. I have race cars for that purpose. I never tracked my Scud because it is too slow compared with my Formula Renault. The last road car that I really enjoyed on the track was the CGT. Scud for me was a great road car and I am looking forward to my 458 which is in transit now. Scud on the road was a fantastic car - I loved the electronics. My favourite road car at present is a 993RS which I much prefer over the 997GT3RS.