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Old 07-29-2010, 08:28 PM
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Are you suggesting that Ferrari wants to force the issue on team orders with the FIA? precedent.
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I do.

I can think of no other reason (other than Ferrari are stupid) for doing it the way they did.
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Old 07-29-2010, 08:34 PM
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I do.

I can think of no other reason (other than Ferrari are stupid) for doing it the way they did.
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Old 07-30-2010, 06:49 PM
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Does anybody know when the FIA will make a decision (if at all) about the team order violation?

For some reason I thought I heard/read (?) somewhere that this won't happen until September. If that's the case, the whole thing becomes pretty pathetic in the sense that the FIA then can play God about potentially throwing out a WDC or WCC candidate or come down with a points reduction that is meaningless.
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Does anybody know when the FIA will make a decision (if at all) about the team order violation?

For some reason I thought I heard/read (?) somewhere that this won't happen until September. If that's the case, the whole thing becomes pretty pathetic in the sense that the FIA then can play God about potentially throwing out a WDC or WCC candidate or come down with a points reduction that is meaningless.
Anytime after Sunday's race will be too late.
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Yes, during today's broadcast the annoucers said that the earliest the matter could be dealt with is the WMSC meeting in September but that it had not yet been put on the calendar.

I think this plays in Ferrari's favor to have the final decision delayed as that will give time for some of the stronger feelings to settle.

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Old 07-30-2010, 07:22 PM
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Yes, during today's broadcast the annoucers said that the earliest the matter could be dealt with is the WMSC meeting in September but that it had not yet been put on the calendar.

I think this plays in Ferrari's favor to have the final decision delayed as that will give time for some of the stronger feelings to settle.

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FA controlled FM however he wanted. If he wanted to be close he was close. If he wanted to protect the car he was a little further behind.

Massa wasn't faster than him. But he was ready to risk both cars to prevent FA from overtaking.
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Now back to reality. Massa turned quite a few fastest laps. If Alonso was so fast and could control FM then maybe he should have made a pass while sitting behind for 40 some odd laps. Fact is that Massa was faster yesterdayand the lap times proved it.
Read the first post in this thread. Confirming what I said.

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=292650
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Read the first post in this thread. Confirming what I said.

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=292650
Anyone who didn't think Alonso had Massa's measure doesn't know F1.
Anyone who did not see the potential for a wreck if a legitimate pass was attempted doesn't know F1.
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Anyone who didn't think Alonso had Massa's measure doesn't know F1.
Anyone who did not see the potential for a wreck if a legitimate pass was attempted doesn't know F1.
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Massa is #2. Always has been, always will be.
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Ironic:

When Ferrari is called onto the carpet for this use of team orders, ...
sitting at the head of the table will be Jean Todt ...

... Who made the team order call between Schumi and Rubins in Austria '02 ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yHPQSOziDw

... which is what caused the team order rule in the first place.

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Ironic:

When Ferrari is called onto the carpet for this use of team orders, ...
sitting at the head of the table will be Jean Todt ...

... Who made the team order call between Schumi and Rubins in Austria '02 ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yHPQSOziDw

... which is what caused the team order rule in the first place.

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