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Old 10-09-2007, 11:58 PM
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Perhaps you've hit the nail on the head. The REAL question is: Is a "barn find" REALLY a big deal if the price tag is just as much as any other vintage Ferrari? How about a barn find for $2500 or $7500 or something that REALLY is a bargain. Now THAT would be something worth crowing about.
Just last Wednesday night, I talked to a family member of a fellow with a 250 GTE sitting in a garage that hasn't been driven within the past 20 years. Technically speaking, it's probably a barn find. But you couldn't pry this car away from the owner for anything less than big bucks, and probably not even then because he's been offered serious money several times and doesn't need to sell. So it sits.
I think they're great largely because you have a better chance that the car is completely original and hasn't been messed around with. No need to correct that incorrect nose that they put on in the '70s, because it still has the original one. etc. Assuming that car wasn't messed around with before it went in the barn, which of course is always possible, then what you are left with is a perfect example of what an original and "correct" car should look like. Even with period photos, sometimes it's hard to know whether you are restoring a car correctly. However, when the original skeleton is still there to guide your hand, it's much easier to get it "right." I think that's what's great about a barn find.

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Old 10-10-2007, 03:21 AM
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I can't believe Tom S found this good order Ferrari lieing in a junk yard, Is this a way to get publicity?the story sounds rigged !
Mate are their people dumb enough to believe that a prancing horse vehicle is in a junk yard in very good state?

Even if it was a Ford in this state the junk yard would of sold it ages ago or used it himself.

Did Tom place the car in the junk yard for you to believe it was their and do this science fiction story?

If its true
I'll buy a Junk yard daytona spyder Tom ,cash in the hand!

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Old 10-10-2007, 10:14 AM
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Tom bashing reflects poorly on you. Take the high road with the Ferrari crowd - it's the only road worth travelling.
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Old 10-10-2007, 10:20 AM
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Tom bashing reflects poorly on you......
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As I have already mentionned in another thread just today.....too much negativity around here. It's too bad.
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Old 10-10-2007, 04:14 PM
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I can't believe Tom S found this good order Ferrari lieing in a junk yard, Is this a way to get publicity?the story sounds rigged !
Mate are their people dumb enough to believe that a prancing horse vehicle is in a junk yard in very good state?

Even if it was a Ford in this state the junk yard would of sold it ages ago or used it himself.

Did Tom place the car in the junk yard for you to believe it was their and do this science fiction story?

If its true
I'll buy a Junk yard daytona spyder Tom ,cash in the hand!
It's Tom's business to find cars in such locations.....and he's very good at it! This wasn't the first posting of his success, and it won't be his last.....
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Old 10-10-2007, 04:43 PM
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It's Tom's business to find cars in such locations.....and he's very good at it! This wasn't the first posting of his success, and it won't be his last.....
well if thats the case good for Tom I admire you,In Italy you can't even find a smashed 348 for good money,they cost nearly same as non smashed one.
I was joking about Tom not bashing him ,he bashes me in every post ,he must really hate Italian sellers after the $3000 dollar deal with that metzler Italian ebayer.
I don't need to bash anyone I joke on several posts look around!

Take care and again Tom Thumbs up to your work I hope we meet soon!
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Old 10-10-2007, 08:27 PM
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Even though this thread is ancient history, I don't think that Tom found the car lying IN a junkyard. Junkyards are usually places with all kinds of buildings and sheds where the owners stash unusual vehicles and save them from the fate of total scrap and/or parting out. Salvage yard owners are usually car guys that wheel and deal a lot of interesting stuff. The old Ferrari was probably tucked in a back shed for years.
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Old 10-10-2007, 09:34 PM
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Even though this thread is ancient history, I don't think that Tom found the car lying IN a junkyard. Junkyards are usually places with all kinds of buildings and sheds where the owners stash unusual vehicles and save them from the fate of total scrap and/or parting out. Salvage yard owners are usually car guys that wheel and deal a lot of interesting stuff. The old Ferrari was probably tucked in a back shed for years.
I agree!
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Old 10-10-2007, 09:51 PM
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T308,

How is your progress going. Have you done anything with the car yet?
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:09 AM
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Even though this thread is ancient history, I don't think that Tom found the car lying IN a junkyard. Junkyards are usually places with all kinds of buildings and sheds where the owners stash unusual vehicles and save them from the fate of total scrap and/or parting out. Salvage yard owners are usually car guys that wheel and deal a lot of interesting stuff. The old Ferrari was probably tucked in a back shed for years.
Ok. It's kinda late and I am NOT going to go way back into this thread to re-read. But from what I remember this car was found in a yard by the Mexican border. It's where they confisgate cars that illegally cross said border. Not a junkyard. Not sure why we are talking junkyards. I don't know Tom personally but I also don't know why the hell people are doubting him in this thread all of a sudden...
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Old 10-11-2007, 03:39 AM
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Hi
I've been lurking on F-chat for years now and was kind of surprised to see this thread come back to life. If you guys do take the time to go back and read T308's original post, I can guarantee it's accurate. The photos don't lie, I know I was there and I took most of them. As far as progress on the car, I drove it a couple months ago and had a blast doing so. While it is still a work in progress, it is definitely getting there. Those of us who have had the opportunity to visit Tom at his farm or the water tower and see his operation first hand know what he's all about. I not sure why finding a car under these circumstances would be so surprising, he does this for a living. I'm sure you've all heard about 0202A, right? I don't want to talk for Tom or T308 but I just thought I could shed some light on this.
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Old 10-11-2007, 04:41 AM
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WOW!!

I'll say you've been lurking for a while. signed up in 2005 first post, Q4 2007.

That's gotta be some kind of record.

Now, for the record. Tom S. is a friend of mine. I know Tom Shaughnessy. Orlando, you are no Tom Shaughnessy.

This bickering that's going on here is doing nothing to enhance your reputation among those you wish to woo here. Please, for everyone's sake, don't wander off into personal attacks against members here who contribute much, without the side benefit of reaping any rewards.

Tom freely shares his wealth of knowledge here. His only reward? Well, I don't know what his reward is, other than knowing that he's helping other Ferrari guys.

Ok, back with the regularly scheduled program.
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:19 AM
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Dave: Well written, you have my second to your motion. M
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Old 10-11-2007, 07:32 AM
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Thanks for an update Bernard. Hopefully T308 will chime in and share some recent photos. I am currently looking at 250 GTE/330 America's, so any info is helpful.
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:29 AM
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If you are looking at GTEs/Americas, go to www.tomyang.netit's sort of a hub for these cars.

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Old 10-11-2007, 09:56 AM
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WOW!!

I'll say you've been lurking for a while. signed up in 2005 first post, Q4 2007.

That's gotta be some kind of record.

Now, for the record. Tom S. is a friend of mine. I know Tom Shaughnessy. Orlando, you are no Tom Shaughnessy.

This bickering that's going on here is doing nothing to enhance your reputation among those you wish to woo here. Please, for everyone's sake, don't wander off into personal attacks against members here who contribute much, without the side benefit of reaping any rewards.

Tom freely shares his wealth of knowledge here. His only reward? Well, I don't know what his reward is, other than knowing that he's helping other Ferrari guys.

Ok, back with the regularly scheduled program.

I don't get the constant Tom bashing either.
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:16 AM
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Tom S. is absolutely straightforward, fair and reliable .... with genuine people that return the same courtesies. He has shared a LOT of knowledge with me and supplied some things I needed. The items were very accurately described, supplied at fair prices and shipped promptly - often before the check could have arrived.

I think he has just decided to "not suffer fools gladly".

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Old 10-11-2007, 10:45 AM
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If you are looking at GTEs/Americas, go to www.tomyang.netit's sort of a hub for these cars.

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Yes, I've checked out Tom Yang's site. Very informative.
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:40 PM
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Tom S. is absolutely straightforward, fair and reliable .... with genuine people that return the same courtesies. He has shared a LOT of knowledge with me and supplied some things I needed. The items were very accurately described, supplied at fair prices and shipped promptly - often before the check could have arrived.

I think he has just decided to "not suffer fools gladly".

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I can second this. I've even received items before the check was ever sent!

Eccentric? Sure, but someone for whom the cars themselves still matter as much or more than the $ they bring in.
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:15 PM
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Maybe it's time for an update? Did the barn find turn out to be all it was hoped to be? Or did it simply move to another barn?
Wow, I can't believe someone brought this thread back from the dead.

The car is still with me and no, it's not in search of another "barn". It was/is what I'd hoped it to be, a solid car with cosmetic needs. Mechanically it's better than expected. It's missing little bits and trim pieces, but I'm slowly accumulating them (which is more difficult now that Tom's "Retired"...). My intent was to dive into it right away but real life got in the way (little things like work and marriage!), so its proceeding a little more slowly than I'd have hoped.

I'll write up a little summary of the experiences when I get back home, right now the North Shore of Hawaii calls...
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